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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: After encounters <strong>with</strong> thick and ponderous books on<br />

spirituality, you decided, before writing your first book, to write<br />

down all the words you did not want to use. And I have to say, it<br />

really shows because there is not a single word in any of your<br />

books that is not totally accessible; there’s no spiritual mumbojumbo<br />

or eastern inscrutability in here. That’s quite a feat.<br />

CHUCK HILLIG: Thank you. Yes, that was the driving force when<br />

I created the first book. I had gone to the Bodhi Tree, maybe some<br />

of your listeners are familiar <strong>with</strong> that, it’s like the number one<br />

metaphysical-philosophical bookstore in Los Angeles, and I would<br />

wander up and down the aisles and I would see all of these books<br />

and they were 600 pages <strong>with</strong> many appendices and many<br />

footnotes and I said well, if the Truth that they’re pointing at is<br />

truly simple, then how come people aren’t putting it in a very<br />

simplistic, easy-to-understand format? So that’s when I went<br />

home and I said I do not want to use these words, these words<br />

tangentially spin the listener and the reader out to other places<br />

that I don’t want them to go to. I prefer everybody to be on board<br />

as we move from this page to the next page and I don’t want to<br />

lose anybody along the way so that at the end of the book they’re<br />

getting what I’m pointing at. That’s why I’ve used it for all of my<br />

books. I’m very much of a minimalist, a spiritual minimalist; I like<br />

to describe myself as because it just seems to be the way to go.<br />

TRIP: I think it is the way to go. One of the people that called in<br />

to the interview that I watched had been blown away by your<br />

incredibly slim little volume <strong>The</strong> Way It Is. When I got your books<br />

from your publisher to review, my ego, which is still obviously in<br />

full bloom operation said, “What are these baby books I’ve been<br />

sent here?” Even when I first cracked the books initially in the<br />

first few minutes of reading through them there was such<br />

simplicity to it, my ego wanted to dismiss it, but as I got deeper<br />

into it, the richness in that simplicity just blew me away and it<br />

spoke to me right where I am right Now. It was amazing. Fewer<br />

words are powerful, isn’t it?<br />

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