Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
Using his studies in both eastern philosophy and western
psychology, Chuck’s four-book enlightenment, Quartet, presents a
world view that shows his readers how to fully live a truly
enlightened and authentic life in the 21 st century by waking up to
who they really are.
So Chuck, I’m compelled. To go further than that right up and
acknowledge you as the self-realized human being that you are…
CHUCK HILLIG: Thank you for that nice introduction and after
listening to it, I definitely want to hear what I have to say!
[Laughter]
TRIP: I watched you in your video interview on Never Not Now
and I just want to say that you have amazing comfort ability in
your own skin. You have a mental CD-ROM library of personal
experience and teachings that you apparently have absorbed over
the last 42 years since you had your awakening. The net of that is
that when a person is asking you a question, after a while they
realize that you’re absolutely not going to be giving back some BS
answer or what have you and so the ego relaxes; it’s not the verge
of a contraction and so that person that watches you dispense that
amazing wisdom can relax into that wisdom and merge with it,
and that’s great teaching.
CHUCK HILLIG: Well, thank you for that. That’s a very
enthusiastic endorsement and I hope that I also did that when I
was doing psychotherapy full time for 30 years. But I’ve come to a
place, years ago, where I – in fact I just posted this on Facebook
because I wanted to throw that out there – and it’s just four simple
words, and I like to live my life like this. The four words are;
abandon certitude and embrace ambiguity.
TRIP: Yes; a good teaching to live by.
CHUCK HILLIG: Yes it is...it is. It’s that certitude that locks us in
when we say “I know exactly what this is about,” without thinking
about all the things that you’re not pointing to.
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