Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
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WIZARD: And we do keep archives posted, so folks can go back
on their own time.
BRIAN EZZELL: Oh, yes, I've listened to a few of them. I don't
have the most wonderful Internet connection in the world, seeing
that I live out here somewhat disconnected. I'm about 1,000 feet
away from being connected to the real world when it comes to
Internet. So I have to deal with a certain amount of bandwidth
and all that.
TRIP: I don't have too many more questions that I've got for you,
but I did have one here. Your teacher once mentioned to you
something about a piece of cloth that was hanging out of your
dresser. And it was at a time when you were a bit stressed out and
there was a lot of clutter in your life, and the cloth hanging out of
the dresser was kind of symbolic of the clutter in your life. And
there was a lesson there on mindfulness. And my question for you
is, well, maybe you could tell us a little bit about mindfulness, but
how does mindfulness occur without thinking? Now a little while
ago we talked about how the distance between heaven and earth is
just one thought, so what's the difference between mindfulness
and thinking?
BRIAN EZZELL: Mindfulness is experiencing without thought
[Laughs]. It's to be aware of… we go through life in so many ways,
without even being aware of what we just did two minutes ago.
And it's not that you need to be able to hold on to that, it's just that
you need to be aware of what it is that you're doing. And a lot of
times whenever I don't feel completely quite right, I will look
around and sure enough there is clutter somewhere, either I didn't
do my dishes, or I left some clothes in the washing machine, or
something like that, I left something undone. And all that my
objective is to try and bring harmony for today, I'm not trying to
bring harmony in for tomorrow. I just want to make things
harmonic and balanced as best they can be in the time that's
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