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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

BRIAN EZZELL: Yes.<br />

TRIP: So the like wife-beater, he's not going to remain…<br />

BRIAN EZZELL: Up until the moment when he passes away.<br />

TRIP: Ah, okay.<br />

BRIAN EZZELL: I feel like eventually when death occurs you’re<br />

going to find out real quick, aren't you? [Laughs]<br />

WIZARD: Death was true all along.<br />

BRIAN EZZELL: Yes. It doesn't matter… no, there's no timeframe<br />

in there, you're going to find out about this one way or the other,<br />

and that's all there is to it. [Laughter]<br />

TRIP: Hey, here's something you said that really resonated <strong>with</strong><br />

me, and it was very comforting, so I want to share it. You say,<br />

"When I experience things that are beautiful, I say, wow that is<br />

very beautiful and wonderful. It is still duality. When I experience<br />

things that are threatened I say, while that is threatening, it is still<br />

duality". I don't know that's comforting.<br />

BRIAN EZZELL: Yes. I say that in a sense, I don't go around<br />

saying, well that's duality, that's duality, but duality and oneness<br />

are one. To say that oneness and duality, you could talk about<br />

them in conceptual ways, that's dualistic thinking as well. But first<br />

you learn about duality, and you learn… first you don't know<br />

anything about duality, you don't even know what oneness is, you<br />

just go through life and you're just okay, life sometimes it sucks<br />

and sometimes it’s great. But then you learn about duality. And<br />

then after that you learn about oneness, you realize oneness. And<br />

then there's a point in time when you need let go of both of those,<br />

and just be. And that to let go of the concepts that maybe we run<br />

the risk of always, just because we use the human language, and<br />

we talk about things, we do have concepts.<br />

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