Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
BRIAN ADLER: I'm really glad that you're asking this question, I
have a couple of different thoughts about that. One is I don't
actually have any idea, and neither do any of us, what anyone else
is experiencing. Ramana is easy to project perfection on. But
when we project perfection, it's just like when we project flaw, and
for a really long time that was my experience exactly what you're
describing, where I would look at teachers like Ramana and think,
I'm not having the experience that I imagine that he's having, that
I imagine that I'm supposed to be having. And like I was pointing
out before, just like everything else, just like thinking I need more
money, thinking I need more abiding peace, is the vehicle through
which I lose it.
WIZARD: Well, Ramana Maharshi was very ordinary, and he had
a panic attack, he accepted it, which is what you're bringing to us
today, is just acceptance. He accepted that, he didn't hope for
anything different.
BRIAN ADLER: I think if there is anything to abide in, it's not
abiding in some idea of enlightenment; it's abiding in the
experience what we're already having. What's closer than that?
WIZARD: Ramana Maharshi was enrobed in deification by
Kavyakantha, I think is how you pronounce his name, after the
fact. Ramana never studied any religion, he didn't know the
Vedas, he didn't know Sanskrit, and he didn't know anything
about theology. He was just an ordinary guy, and after his
conversion, he got lazy, his uncle got pissed off, ran him out.
Ramana got his feelings hurt, and then things in his life happened,
they were extremely human, but in time those things are lifted out
of the script, as deification tends to form, especially in India where
there's so much of that in their culture.
BRIAN ADLER: Right.
TRIP: Well, we've slap run out of time. Brian you are a
magnificent guest, and clear and gorgeous and we know you would
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