Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
about it, because I don't know about you, but I have to pull away to
talk about it. The most beautiful thing is just that silent
appreciation, so that's kind of speaking to what you were saying,
Paul. I don't try to own it.
PAUL NAGY: Well, let's not put conditions on the unconditional.
The Now is immediate, and it's also vast. And the Now is vast, but
it doesn't necessarily mean that… And the Now is only Now, and
at the same time it also includes all time, and abides no time.
TRIP: I have one last question for you, Brian, because we're
running out of time. Because I'd like you to reflect on something
that I go around saying that may not be a useful thing to be saying.
You said that one of our obstructions, if you will, is that we have
this feeling that we have to abide as presence, and if we're not
doing it, then there's something wrong with us, or we're not really
spiritual or something like that. And what I want to dedicate
myself to, and what the show is dedicated to, is sort of if you will
the popular realization of the fact that enlightenment, for lack of a
better term, is really for everyone. And there are thousands of
avant-garde sages walking around out there like yourself who get
it, and who are deeply living this beautiful truth of who we are.
But it does seem that there are these special folks, like the Ramana
Maharshi's of the world who seem to "abide" of presence with a
constancy that is somewhat unique, they seem to not blink that in
constancy. And therefore they become these like perfect mirrors
for people, like myself and John, because they're just absolutely
clean, and they don't blink, and they're like rock solid.
And so the feeling comes up that there's this type of guy like
Ramana Maharshi, who's got this constancy that's clearly not the
case for me, and then creeps in these thoughts that there's really
this difference between Ramana and me. I must not really get it,
because Ramana can just stay there like a rock, and I'm fluttering
in and out of this and that. If what you say is true that it's a false
desire to abide as that, it's an obstruction if you will, how do you
reconcile these two natural things, it's a kind of natural thing that
comes up?
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