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Ananda, “Ananda, would you say this bowl is full or empty?”<br />

“Lord, the bowl is full of water.”<br />

“Ananda, take this bowl outside and empty all the water out of it.”<br />

Venerable Ananda did as the Buddha instructed. When he returned, he placed the empty bowl back on the table. The Buddha lifted the<br />

bowl and turned it upside down. He asked, “Ananda, is this bowl now full or empty.”<br />

“Lord, it is no longer full. It is empty.”<br />

“Ananda, are you sure the bowl is empty?”<br />

“Yes, Lord, I am sure the bowl is empty.”<br />

“Ananda, this bowl is no longer full of water, but it is full of air. You have forgotten already! Empty means empty of something and full<br />

means full of something. In this case, the bowl is empty of water but full of air.”<br />

“I understand now.”<br />

“Good. Ananda, this bowl can be either empty or full. Of course, whether there is emptiness or fullness depends on the presence of the<br />

bowl. Without a bowl, there would be no emptiness or fullness. It is just like the Dharma hall. In order for it to be full or empty, it must first<br />

be there.”<br />

“Ah!” the bhikkhus suddenly exclaimed with one voice.<br />

Venerable Ananda joined his palms. “Lord, then the dharmas do exist. The dharmas are real.”<br />

The Buddha smiled. “Ananda, don’t be caught by words. If the dharmas are phenomena empty of self, their existence is not the<br />

existence of ordinary perception. Their existence has the same meaning as ‘emptiness.’”<br />

Ananda joined his palms. “Please, Lord, can you explain that further.”<br />

“Ananda, we have spoken about an empty and a full bowl. We have also spoken about an empty and a full Dharma hall. I have briefly<br />

spoken about emptiness. Let me speak more about fullness.<br />

“Although we have agreed that the bowl on the table is empty of water, if we look deeply, we will see that is not entirely true.”<br />

The Buddha lifted the bowl and then looked at Ananda. “Ananda, among the interwoven elements that have given rise to the bowl, do<br />

you see water?”<br />

“Yes, Lord. Without water, the potter would not have been able to mix the clay he used to fashion the bowl.”<br />

“Just so, Ananda. Looking deeply, we can see the presence of water in the bowl, even though we earlier stated that it is empty of water.<br />

The presence of the bowl depends on the presence of water. Ananda, can you see the fire element in this bowl?”<br />

“Yes, Lord. Fire was necessary to complete the bowl. Looking deeply, I can see the presence of heat and fire in the bowl.”<br />

“What else can you see?”<br />

“I see the air. Without air, the fire could not have burned and the potter could not have lived. I see the potter and his skillful hands. I see<br />

his consciousness. I see the kiln and the wood stacked in the kiln. I see the trees the wood came from. I see the rain, sun, and earth which<br />

enabled the trees to grow. Lord, I can see thousands of interpenetrating elements which gave rise to this bowl.”<br />

“Excellent, Ananda! Contemplating the bowl, it is possible to see the interdependent elements which gave rise to the bowl. Ananda,<br />

these elements are present within and without the bowl. Your own awareness is one of the elements. If you took away heat and returned it<br />

to the sun, if you returned the clay to the earth and the water to the river, if you returned the potter to his parents and the wood to the forest<br />

trees, could the bowl still exist?”<br />

“Lord, the bowl could no longer exist. If you returned the interdependent elements which gave rise to the bowl to their sources, the bowl<br />

could no longer be present.”<br />

“Ananda, contemplating the law of dependent co-arising, we see that the bowl cannot exist independently. It can only exist in<br />

interdependent relation with all other dharmas. All dharmas depend on each other for birth, existence, and death. The presence of one<br />

dharma implies the presence of all other dharmas. The presence of all dharmas is implied by the presence of just one dharma. Ananda, this<br />

is the principle of interpenetration and interbeing.<br />

“Ananda, interpenetration means that within this, that is, and within that, this is. For example, when we look at this bowl we can see the<br />

potter, and when we look at the potter we can see the bowl. Interbeing means that ‘this is that’ and ‘that is this.’ For example, waves are<br />

water, and water is waves. Ananda, at present there are no markets, buffaloes, or villages in the Dharma hall. But that is only from one<br />

viewpoint. In reality, without the presence of markets, buffaloes, and villages, this Dharma hall could not exist. Thus, Ananda, when you

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