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46 May 2013 | THE NEW YORK CITY JAZZ RECORD<br />
(INTERVIEW CONTINUED FROM PAGE 6)<br />
“Okayyy.” [laughs] And we played the head down and<br />
there’s the horn solo and piano solo and then there’s<br />
this kind of improvisational duo happening with Ron<br />
and myself. Which is so interesting, because I didn’t<br />
know where Ron was gonna go. I didn’t feel like he<br />
was pulling me anywhere either. And he had these<br />
kind of dynamic things he was doing - he was sliding<br />
up and down the bass. It really was an interesting<br />
conversation. It was a first take. It was a very<br />
challenging moment because of the emotional side of<br />
you. As a drummer, you’re saying - well, for me, I<br />
speak for myself - I was thinking, “Okay, this is the<br />
moment when this explosion happens.” And actually,<br />
it turned out being like a painting at the end of the day.<br />
There were these kind of strange curves and lines and<br />
colors being added as we were playing it. And he plays<br />
the melody kind of at the very end, which is my cue<br />
that we were done. [laughs].<br />
TNYCJR: Many jazz drummers are holding back but<br />
you really play the drums in a jazz setting.<br />
WC: Well, first of all, thanks. I don’t know what to say<br />
about that. I agree with you in some aspects, because if<br />
I go listen to Tony Williams’ records and I listen to Art<br />
Blakey’s records and I listen to Joe Chambers’ records,<br />
I listen to Jack DeJohnette’s records, they’re playing,<br />
man. They’re playing out. Tony is bashing. That McCoy<br />
Tyner Supertrios double-album where one side is Jack<br />
and the other side is Tony, those guys sound like they<br />
have boxing gloves on. That was just so inspiring to<br />
me. To the point where, in those days, if Tony was on a<br />
record, I went to get it. Didn’t matter who [else] was on<br />
it. If Jack was on the record, I went to get it. If Blakey<br />
put out something, a remaster or something, I went to<br />
get it. There’s nothing to talk about, because I knew I<br />
wasn’t gonna be let down. I can’t explain, because I<br />
feel that way about everything, what you just stated.<br />
Even pop music. I feel it’s become quite homogenized<br />
in a way. I’m not judging any other drummer or any<br />
other bass player. I just don’t hear and want to play<br />
music that way. I’m still inspired by all of those great<br />
drummers and composers and if that’s the thing that’s<br />
gonna fuel my rocket, then that’s the kind of fuel that<br />
I’m gonna use. But I in no way feel like I need to pull<br />
back on the levers in any way, shape or form. It’s a<br />
drum set for God’s sake. I think it’s an instrument that<br />
should piss you off. It should get too loud sometimes.<br />
[If] you gotta put your fingers in your ears for eight<br />
bars, so what? That’s life. That’s what it should be. It<br />
should be that kind of roller coaster ride. It should be<br />
moments of you playing with brushes and you can’t<br />
hear it. There should be moments when you’re not<br />
quite sure where the time is. There should be moments<br />
of total surprise. Like, “Wow, that’s a beautiful sound.”<br />
Mallets, playing with your fingers, whatever it is. To<br />
me, the instrument represents life. And life is more<br />
than A to Z. There’s a lot of other things out there. v<br />
For more information, visit willcalhoun.com. Calhoun is at<br />
Blue Note May 17th-19th. See Calendar.<br />
Recommended Listening:<br />
• Will Calhoun - Housework (8mm Musik, 1994)<br />
• Wayne Shorter - High Life (Verve, 1995)<br />
• Will Calhoun - Live at the Blue Note (Half Note, 1999)<br />
• Santi Debriano - Artistic License (Savant, 2000)<br />
• Will Calhoun - Native Lands (Half Note, 2005)<br />
• Will Calhoun - Life in This World<br />
(Motéma Music, 2013)<br />
(LABEL CONTINUED FROM PAGE 12)<br />
drummer Jerome Cooper hadn’t played together in 25<br />
years when they returned with the Pi Recordings<br />
release And Now…. But Mutable had already taken up<br />
the torch by reissuing their 1975 album The Psyche and<br />
later putting out a recording of a 2005 concert the<br />
group gave in Poland. The recent download release<br />
Counterparts was recorded live in Italy a few months<br />
after the Poland concert and is the final concert the<br />
group ever played.<br />
Buckner acknowledged that the recording quality<br />
of Counterparts isn’t quite up to par with the Poland<br />
recording, released as Beyond the Boundary of Time<br />
(although as an archival release it’s hardly subpar). But<br />
he says he is dedicated to the group and in fact has<br />
recorded with both Cooper and Jenkins. “I love the<br />
Revolutionary Ensemble. I’m friends with Jerome and<br />
I worked with Leroy. I loved Leroy and I thought<br />
somebody should do it.”<br />
That, in a nutshell, might be Buckner’s modus<br />
operandi: he does things because he thinks somebody<br />
should. With regards to the 1750 Arch and<br />
Interpretations concert series he said, “Most of my<br />
time is spent being a singer but I felt these things are<br />
important to do. In both cases I started the concert<br />
series because I thought there was a need for the kind<br />
of music I wanted to present.” Likewise, regarding the<br />
two labels, he explained, “I wanted to be able to put<br />
out those things that were of interest to me that were<br />
not of interest to labels that were interested in me. I<br />
want in general to trust the music of composers with a<br />
jazz formation who are doing things that you wouldn’t<br />
necessarily do in a club.<br />
“You can’t be consistent,” he added. “I can say I’m<br />
doing this but if I hear something I really like, why<br />
wouldn’t I do it?” v<br />
For more information, visit mutablemusic.com. Interpretations<br />
is at Roulette May 9th. See Calendar.