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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

may be in samadhi, still others may disappear from sight before<br />

death. But that makes no difference to their jnana. Such suffering is<br />

apparent only to the onlooker and not to the Jnani, for he has already<br />

transcended the mistaken identity of the Self <strong>with</strong> the body.<br />

Talk 88.<br />

The same gentleman asked: What is the significance of Christ in the<br />

illumination of St. Paul?<br />

M.: Illumination is absolute, not associated <strong>with</strong> forms. After St.<br />

Paul became Self-conscious he identified the illumination <strong>with</strong><br />

Christ-consciousness.<br />

D.: But Paul was not a lover of Christ then?<br />

M.: Love or hatred is immaterial. The thought of Christ was there. It is<br />

similar to Ravana’s case. Christ-consciousness and Self-Realisation<br />

are all the same.<br />

Talk 89.<br />

M.: Karpura arati is symbolic of the burning away of the mind by the<br />

light of illumination, vibhuti (sacred ashes) is Siva (Absolute Being)<br />

and kunkuma (vermilion powder) is Sakti (consciousness).<br />

Vibhuti is of two kinds: Para vibhuti and apara vibhuti. The sacred<br />

ashes are of the latter class. The para is what remains over after<br />

all the dross has been burnt away by the Fire of Realisation. It is<br />

Absolute Being.<br />

Talk 90.<br />

Again, the Trinity was explained:<br />

God the Father represents Isvara<br />

God the Holy Spirit represents Atman<br />

God the Son represents Guru<br />

Isvaro gururatmeti murti bheda vibhagine vyomavad vyapta dehaya<br />

dakshinamurtaye namah:<br />

Meaning that God appears to his devotee in the form of a Guru (son<br />

of God) and points out to him the immanence of the Holy Spirit. That<br />

is to say that God is spirit, that this spirit is immanent everywhere and<br />

that the Self must be realised, which is the same as realising God.<br />

88

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