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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

The visitor said he concentrated on the nasal base, but his mind wandered.<br />

M.: Is there a mind?<br />

Another devotee gently put in: The mind is only a collection of<br />

thoughts.<br />

M.: To whom are the thoughts? If you try to locate the mind, the mind<br />

vanishes and the Self alone remains. Being alone, there can be no<br />

one-pointedness or otherwise.<br />

D.: It is so difficult to understand this. If something concrete is said,<br />

it can be readily grasped. Japa, dhyana, etc., are more concrete.<br />

M.: ‘Who am I?’ is the best japa.<br />

What could be more concrete than the Self? It is <strong>with</strong>in each one’s<br />

experience every moment. Why should he try to catch anything<br />

outside, leaving out the Self? Let each one try to find out the known<br />

Self instead of searching for the unknown something beyond.<br />

D.: Where shall I meditate on the Atman? I mean in which part of<br />

the body?<br />

M.: The Self should manifest itself. That is all that is wanted.<br />

A devotee gently added: On the right of the chest, there is the Heart,<br />

the seat of the Atman.<br />

Another devotee: The illumination is in that centre when the Self<br />

is realised.<br />

M.: Quite so.<br />

D.: How to turn the mind away from the world?<br />

M.: Is there the world? I mean apart from the Self? Does the world<br />

say that it exists? It is you who say that there is a world. Find out<br />

the Self who says it.<br />

16th October, 1935<br />

Talk 82.<br />

A question was raised about the differences in the various samadhis.<br />

M.: When the senses are merged in darkness it is deep sleep; when<br />

merged in light it is samadhi. Just as a passenger when asleep in a<br />

carriage is unaware of the motion, the halting or the unharnessing<br />

of the horses, so also a Jnani in sahaja samadhi is unaware of the<br />

85

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