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Talk 80.<br />

<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

3rd October, 1935<br />

A very devoted and simple disciple had lost his only son, a child of<br />

three years. The next day he arrived at the Asramam <strong>with</strong> his family.<br />

The Master spoke <strong>with</strong> reference to them: “Training of mind helps<br />

one to bear sorrows and bereavements <strong>with</strong> courage. But the loss of<br />

one’s offspring is said to be the worst of all griefs. Grief exists only<br />

so long as one considers oneself to be of a definite form. If the form is<br />

transcended one will know that the one Self is eternal. There is no death<br />

nor birth. That which is born is only the body. The body is the creation<br />

of the ego. But the ego is not ordinarily perceived <strong>with</strong>out the body.<br />

It is always identified <strong>with</strong> the body. It is the thought which matters.<br />

Let the sensible man consider if he knew his body in deep sleep. Why<br />

does he feel it in the waking state? But, although the body was not felt<br />

in sleep, did not the Self exist then? How was he in deep sleep? How<br />

is he when awake? What is the difference? Ego rises up and that is<br />

waking. Simultaneously thoughts arise. Let him find out to whom are<br />

the thoughts. Wherefrom do they arise? They must spring up from the<br />

conscious Self. Apprehending it even vaguely helps the extinction of<br />

the ego. Thereafter the realisation of the one Infinite Existence becomes<br />

possible. In that state there are no individuals other than the Eternal<br />

Existence. Hence there is no thought of death or wailing.<br />

“If a man considers he is born he cannot avoid the fear of death.<br />

Let him find out if he has been born or if the Self has any birth. He<br />

will discover that the Self always exists, that the body which is born<br />

resolves itself into thought and that the emergence of thought is the<br />

root of all mischief. Find wherefrom thoughts emerge. Then you will<br />

abide in the ever-present inmost Self and be free from the idea of birth<br />

or the fear of death.”<br />

A disciple asked how to do it.<br />

M.: The thoughts are only vasanas (predispositions), accumulated in<br />

innumerable births before. Their annihilation is the aim. The state<br />

free from vasanas is the primal state and eternal state of purity.<br />

D.: It is not clear yet.<br />

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