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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

in in devotion which leads to surrender. On the devotee surrendering,<br />

God shows His mercy by manifesting as the Guru. The Guru, otherwise<br />

God, guides the devotee, saying that God is in you and He is the Self.<br />

This leads to introversion of the mind and finally to realisation.<br />

Effort is necessary up to the state of realisation. Even then the Self<br />

should spontaneously become evident. Otherwise happiness will<br />

not be complete. Up to that state of spontaneity there must be effort<br />

in some form or another.<br />

D.: Our work-a-day life is not compatible <strong>with</strong> such efforts.<br />

M.: Why do you think that you are active? Take the gross example of<br />

your arrival here. You left home in a cart, took train, alighted at the<br />

Railway Station here, got into a cart there and found yourself in this<br />

Asramam. When asked, you say that you travelled here all the way<br />

from your town. Is it true? Is it not a fact that you remained as you<br />

were and there were movements of conveyances all along the way.<br />

Just as those movements are confounded <strong>with</strong> your own, so also the<br />

other activities. They are not your own. They are God’s activities.<br />

D.: Such idea will lead to blankness of mind and the work will not<br />

progress well.<br />

M.: Go up to that blankness and tell me afterwards.<br />

D.: They say that a visit to Sages helps Self-Realisation?<br />

M.: Yes. So it does.<br />

D.: Will not my present visit to you bring it about?<br />

M.: (After a short pause) What is to be brought about? To whom?<br />

Consider; investigate. To whom is this doubt. If the source is traced<br />

the doubt will disappear.<br />

Talk 79.<br />

An engineer asked: “The animals seem to conform to their own natural<br />

laws in spite of their environment and changes. Whereas man flouts<br />

social law and is not bound by any definite system. He seems to be<br />

degenerating whereas the animals are steady. Is it not so?”<br />

M.: (After a long time). The Upanishads and scriptures say that human<br />

beings are only animals unless they are realised beings. Possibly<br />

they are worse also.<br />

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