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1916. Skandasramam.<br />

<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

1922. The <strong>Ramana</strong>sramam site on the southern slope of the Hill.<br />

25th September, 1935<br />

Talk 72.<br />

Mr. K. S. N. Iyer, a railway officer, asked about japa.<br />

M.: The utterance and then remembrance and later meditation are the<br />

successive stages finally ending in involuntary and eternal japa. The<br />

japakarta (doer of japa) of that kind is the Self. Of all the japas,<br />

‘Who am I?’ is the best.<br />

27th September, 1935<br />

Talk 73.<br />

Mr. Ekanatha Rao, the engineer, asked, “What about the despondency<br />

of not obtaining any encouragement from the Master - much less his<br />

Grace?”<br />

M.: It is ignorance only. The quest must be made as to who is<br />

despondent and so on. It is the phantom of the ego arising after<br />

sleep which falls a prey to such thoughts. In deep sleep the person<br />

was not afflicted. Who is afflicted now while awake? The sleep<br />

state is about the normal one. Let him search and find out.<br />

D.: But there is no incentive for want of encouragement.<br />

M.: Does not one find some kind of peace while in meditation? That is<br />

the sign of progress. That peace will be deeper and more prolonged<br />

<strong>with</strong> continued practice. It will also lead to the goal. Bhagavad<br />

Gita - Chapter XIV - the final verses speak of gunatita (one who<br />

has transcended the gunas). That is the final stage.<br />

The earlier stages are asuddha satva (impure being), misra satva<br />

(mixed being), and suddha satva (Pure Being).<br />

Of these, the impure being is when overpowered by rajas and tamas;<br />

the mixed being is that state in which the being - satva - asserts itself<br />

spasmodically; the suddha satva overpowers rajas and tamas. After<br />

these successive stages there comes the state transcending gunas.<br />

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