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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: Who is the worker? Let him who works ask the question. You are<br />

always the Self. You are not the mind. It is the mind which raises<br />

these questions. Work proceeds, always in the presence of the Self<br />

only. Work is no hindrance to realisation. It is the mistaken identity<br />

of the worker that troubles one. Get rid of the false identity.<br />

The Professor: Is not the state of non-consciousness close to Infinite<br />

Consciousness?<br />

M.: Consciousness alone remains and nothing more.<br />

D.: <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan’s silence is itself a powerful force. It brings about<br />

a certain peace of mind in us.<br />

M.: Silence is never-ending speech. Vocal speech obstructs the other<br />

speech of silence. In silence one is in intimate contact <strong>with</strong> the<br />

surroundings. The silence of Dakshinamurti removed the doubts of<br />

the four sages. Mouna vyakhya prakatita tatvam (Truth expounded<br />

by silence.) Silence is said to be exposition. Silence is so potent.<br />

For vocal speech, <strong>org</strong>ans of speech are necessary and they precede<br />

speech. But the other speech lies even beyond thought. It is in short<br />

transcendent speech or unspoken words, para vak.<br />

D.: Is there knowledge in Realisation?<br />

M.: Absence of knowledge is sleep. There is knowledge in Realisation.<br />

But this knowledge differs from the ordinary one of the relation<br />

of subject and object. It is absolute knowledge. Knowledge has<br />

two meanings:<br />

(1) vachyartha = vritti = Literal meaning.<br />

(2) lakshyartha = Jnana = Self = Swarupa = Secondary significance.<br />

D.: With vritti one sees knowledge.<br />

M.: Quite so, he also confounds vritti <strong>with</strong> knowledge. Vritti is a mode<br />

of mind. You are not the mind. You are beyond it.<br />

The Lady: There is sometimes an irresistible desire to remain in<br />

Brahma-akara-vritti.<br />

M.: It is good. It must be cultivated until it becomes sahaja (natural).<br />

Then it culminates as swarupa, one’s own self.<br />

Later <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan explained: Vritti is often mistaken for<br />

consciousness. It is only a phenomenon and operates in the region<br />

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