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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Talk 68.<br />

Dr. Radhakamal Mukerjee, a well-known Professor, fair man of<br />

middle age, <strong>with</strong> a peaceful look, practising yoga or meditation, has<br />

had some occult experiences and desires the mystery to be unravelled<br />

by the Master. He has written a book and had it published by Messrs.<br />

Longmans Green & Co., London. He finds Self-Realisation hard to<br />

attain and requires the Master’s help. His question: “The upanishadic<br />

method of meditation has now disappeared. There was a great sage<br />

in Bengal who instructed me in it. After long years of discipline and<br />

practice I am having some mystic experiences. I feel sometimes that<br />

Bhuma (Supreme Consciousness) is infinitude and that I am finite<br />

consciousness. Is that correct?”<br />

M.: Bhuma (Perfection) alone is. It is Infinite. There arises from it<br />

this finite consciousness taking on an upadhi (limiting adjunct).<br />

This is abhasa or reflection. Merge this individual consciousness<br />

into the Supreme One. That is what should be done.<br />

D.: Bhuma is an attribute of Supreme Consciousness.<br />

M.: Bhuma is the Supreme - yatra naanyat pasyati yatra naanyat<br />

srunoti sa bhuma (where one does not see any other, hears nothing,<br />

it is Perfection). It is indefinable and indescribable. It is as it is.<br />

D.: There is a vastness experienced. Probably it is just below Bhuma<br />

but close to it. Am I right?<br />

M.: Bhuma alone is. Nothing else. It is the mind, which says all this.<br />

D.: Transcending the mind I feel the vastness.<br />

M.: Yes, Yes....<br />

The professor turned to the lady seated just a little further away from<br />

him and interpreted in Hindi to her.<br />

She: What is the difference between meditation and distraction?<br />

M.: No difference. When there are thoughts, it is distraction: when<br />

there are no thoughts, it is meditation. However, meditation is only<br />

practice (as distinguished from the real state of Peace.)<br />

She: How to practice meditation?<br />

M.: Keep off thoughts.<br />

She: How to reconcile work <strong>with</strong> meditation?<br />

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