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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

In the course of a later talk the visitor said: “The world sends<br />

impressions and I awake!”<br />

M.: Can the world exist <strong>with</strong>out someone to perceive it? Which is<br />

prior? The Being-consciousness or the rising-consciousness? The<br />

Being-consciousness is always there, eternal and pure. The risingconsciousness<br />

rises forth and disappears. It is transient.<br />

D.: Does not the world exist for others even when I am asleep?<br />

M.: Such a world mocks at you also for knowing it <strong>with</strong>out knowing<br />

yourself. The world is the result of your mind. Know your mind.<br />

Then see the world. You will realise that it is not different from<br />

the Self.<br />

D.: Is not <strong>Maharshi</strong> aware of himself and his surroundings, as clearly<br />

as I am?<br />

M.: To whom is the doubt? The doubts are not for the realised. They<br />

are only for the ignorant.<br />

16th June, 1935<br />

Talk 54.<br />

An Andhra Pandit - an elderly gentleman - had some doubts regarding<br />

Kavyakantha’s exposition of Advaita. He has found it in books that<br />

Brahman is free from sajatiya, vijatiya and swagata bheda. Such<br />

conditions are satisfied in vivarta vada but not in parinama vada. In<br />

the latter, swagata bheda is bound to be. The Master pointed out that<br />

Dakshinamurti did not teach anything of the kind. He did not say that<br />

Brahman is related to Sakti or not related. All that was, was only silence;<br />

and the doubts of the sishyas (disciples) were cleared. The significance<br />

is that there is nothing to be learnt, discussed and concluded. Everyone<br />

knows ‘I am.’ There is the confusion that the ‘I’ is the body. Because<br />

the ‘I’ arises from the Absolute and gives rise to buddhi (Intellect). In<br />

buddhi the ‘I’ looks the size and shape of the body, na medhaya means<br />

that Brahman cannot be apprehended by buddhi.<br />

Brahman → aham (‘I-I’) → buddhi (intellect).<br />

How can such buddhi crossing over aham discover Brahman? It is<br />

impossible. Just get over the false conception of the ‘I’ being the<br />

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