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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

18th March, 1939<br />

Talk 649.<br />

Mr. Thompson, a very quiet young gentleman who is staying in India for<br />

some years and studying Hindu Philosophy as an earnest student, asked:<br />

<strong>Sri</strong>mad Bhagavad Gita says: “I am the prop for Brahman.” In another<br />

place, it says: “I am in the heart of each one.” Thus the different<br />

aspects of the Ultimate Principle are revealed. I take it that there are<br />

three aspects, namely (1) the transcendental (2) the immanent and<br />

(3) the cosmic. Is Realisation to be in any one of these or in all of<br />

them? Coming to the transcendental from the cosmic, the Vedanta<br />

discards the names and forms as being maya. But I cannot readily<br />

appreciate it because a tree means the trunk, branches, leaves, etc.<br />

I cannot dismiss the leaves as maya. Again the Vedanta also says<br />

that the whole is Brahman as illustrated by gold and ornaments of<br />

gold. How are we to understand the Truth?<br />

M.: The Gita says: Brahmano hi pratishtaham. If that ‘aham’ is<br />

known, the whole is known.<br />

D.: It is the immanent aspect only.<br />

M.: You now think that you are an individual, there is the universe and<br />

that God is beyond the cosmos. So there is the idea of separateness.<br />

This idea must go. For God is not separate from you or the cosmos.<br />

The Gita also says:<br />

The Self am I, O Lord of Sleep,<br />

In every creature’s heart enshrined.<br />

The rise and noon of every form,<br />

I am its final doom as well. B. G., X. 20.<br />

Thus God is not only in the heart of all, He is the prop of all, He<br />

is the source of all, their abiding place and their end. All proceed<br />

from Him, have their stay in Him, and finally resolve into Him.<br />

Therefore He is not separate.<br />

D.: How are we to understand this passage in the Gita:<br />

“This whole cosmos forms a particle of Me.”<br />

M.: It does not mean that a small particle of God separates from Him<br />

and forms the Universe. His Sakti is acting; as a result of one phase of<br />

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