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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
To say that the soul must be perfected after death, the soul must be
admitted to exist. Therefore the body is not the person. It is the soul.
To explain evolution Sri Bhagavan continued:
One sees an edifice in his dream. It rises up all of a sudden. Then
he begins to think how it should have been already built brick by
brick by so many labourers during such a long time. Yet he does
not see the builders working. So also with the theory of evolution.
Because he finds himself a man he thinks that he has developed to
that stage from the primal state of the amoeba.
Another devotee: It is an illustration of the saying that he sees the
universe full of cause and effect Visram pasyati karyakaranataya.
M.: Yes. The man always traces an effect to a cause, there must be a
cause for the cause, the argument becomes interminable. Relating
the effect to a cause makes the man think. He is finally driven to
consider who he is himself. When he knows the Self there is Perfect
Peace. It is for that consummation that man is evolved.
Later in the evening, another devotee said to Sri Bhagavan that the
Muslim official continued to speak of the same topic to the Municipal
Commissioner.
Then Sri Bhagavan said: He says that body and soul together form
the man. But I ask what is the state of the man in deep sleep. The
body is not aware whereas the man is there all along.
D.: But he says that sleep is temporary death.
M.: Yes, so he says. But he qualifies the word death by the word
temporary, so that the man returns to the body. How does he find the
body to re-enter it? Moreover, he is sure to return. That means that he
must exist to return to the body or to claim the body for himself.
The scriptures however say that the prana protects the body in
sleep. For when the body lies on the floor, a wolf or a tiger may
feed on it. The animal sniffs and feels that there is life within and
therefore does not feed on it as on a corpse. That again shows that
there is someone in the body to protect it in deep sleep.
General remarks by Sri Bhagavan:
All knowledge is meant only to lead the person to the realisation
of the Self. The scriptures or religions are well-known to be for
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