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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Talk 622.<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan has a bandage on his finger. Someone asked, “What is<br />

that?” Bhagavan replied: “The finger came upon a knife”. (The Knife<br />

is inert, and relative to it the finger is a conscious agent).<br />

Talk 623.<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said to another devotee that there are five states:<br />

(1) Sleep, (2) Before waking, a state free from thoughts, (3) Sense of<br />

happiness of that freedom from thoughts (rasasvada), (4) The internal<br />

movement of the vasanas (kashaya) and (5) <strong>Complete</strong> waking <strong>with</strong><br />

(distraction) vikshepa. The second of those should be made permanent.<br />

4th February, 1939<br />

Talk 624.<br />

A devotee asked <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan: With every thought the subject and the<br />

object appear and disappear. Does not the ‘I’ disappear when the subject<br />

disappears thus? If that be so how can the quest of the ‘I’ proceed?<br />

M.: The subject (knower) is only a mode of mind. Though the mode<br />

(vritti) passes, the reality behind it does not cease. The background<br />

of the mode is the ‘I’ in which the mind modes arise and sink.<br />

D.: After describing the Self as srota (hearer), manta (thinker), vijnata<br />

(knower), etc., it is again described as asrota, amanta, avijnata,<br />

non-hearer, non-thinker, non-knower, Is it so?<br />

M.: Just so. The common man is aware of himself only when<br />

modifications arise in the intellect (vijnanamaya kosa); these<br />

modifications are transient; they arise and set. Hence the vijnanamaya<br />

(intellect) is called a kosa or sheath. When pure awareness is left<br />

over it is itself the Chit (Self) or the Supreme. To be in one’s natural<br />

state on the subsidence of thoughts is bliss; if that bliss be transient<br />

- arising and setting - then it is only the sheath of bliss (Anandamaya<br />

kosa), not the pure Self. What is needed is to fix the attention on<br />

the pure ‘I’ after the subsidence of all thoughts and not to lose hold<br />

of it. This has to be described as an extremely subtle thought; else<br />

it cannot be spoken of at all, since it is no other than the Real Self.<br />

Who is to speak of it, to whom and how?<br />

606

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