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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: Its growth and the trouble consequent on such growth make you look<br />

for the cause of it all. Its development is for its own destruction.<br />

D.: Is it not said that one must be like a child before one advances<br />

spiritually?<br />

M.: Yes, because the ego is not developed in the child.<br />

D.: I mean exactly the same. We could have remained like the child<br />

instead of having developed the ego.<br />

M.: The state of the child is meant. No one can take lessons from the<br />

child for the Realisation of the Self. The Master’s state is like the<br />

state of the child. There is a difference between the two. The ego is<br />

potential in the child, whereas it is totally destroyed in the saint.<br />

D.: Yes, I see, I understand it now.<br />

M.: The Reality is alone and eternal. To understand it is good enough.<br />

But the old ignorance should not return. A good watch must be kept<br />

lest the present understanding of the Truth suffers later on.<br />

A disciple served a master a long time and realised the Self. He was<br />

in Bliss and wanted to express his gratitude to the master. He was in<br />

tears of joy and his voice choked when he spoke. He said, “What a<br />

wonder that I did not know my very Self all these years? I suffered<br />

long and you so graciously helped me to realise the Self. How shall I<br />

repay your Grace? It is not in my power to do it!” The master replied:<br />

“Well, well. Your repayment consists in not lapsing into ignorance<br />

over again but in continuing in the state of your real Self.”<br />

[Compiler’s remarks: The Self is the Master and all else. The Realisation<br />

of the Self means Self-surrender or merging into the Master. What more<br />

can anyone do? That is the highest form of gratitude to the Master].<br />

21st January, 1939<br />

Talk 613.<br />

A young man asked: “Are thoughts mere matter?”<br />

M.: What do you mean? Do you mean ‘matter’ like the things you<br />

see around you?<br />

D.: Yes - gross.<br />

M.: Who asks this question? Who is the thinker?<br />

592

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