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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

18th January, 1939<br />

Talk 608.<br />

Mrs. Hick Riddingh wrote two questions on a slip of paper and asked<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan if her interpretations were correct.<br />

M.: The Self is beyond ignorance and knowledge. It is Absolute.<br />

These doubts do not arise to the Self for it is Pure Consciousness<br />

and cannot admit of dark ignorance.<br />

D.: From our point of view they arise.<br />

M.: See to whom they arise. Go to their root. See if they arise after<br />

you reach their source and hold on to it.<br />

D.: But at the present moment -<br />

M.: Such discussions are theoretical and there will be no end to them.<br />

One must be practical and try to solve the problems for oneself by the<br />

method suggested. The method has been pointed out already. Find out<br />

to whom the questions arise. They resolve themselves immediately.<br />

Talk 609.<br />

Lady Bateman and others came to the hall at about 3-30 p.m. In a few<br />

minutes she asked in writing if one is nearer to Pure Consciousness<br />

in deep sleep than in the waking state.<br />

M.: The sleep, dream and waking states are mere phenomena<br />

appearing on the Self which is itself stationary and also a state of<br />

simple awareness. Can anyone remain away from the Self at any<br />

moment? This question can arise only if that were possible.<br />

D.: Is it not often said that one is nearer Pure Consciousness in deep<br />

slumber than in the waking state?<br />

M.: The question may as well be: Am I nearer to myself in my sleep<br />

than in my waking state?<br />

For the Self is Pure Consciousness. No one can ever be away from<br />

the Self. The question is possible only if there is duality. But there<br />

is no duality in the state of Pure Consciousness.<br />

The same person sleeps, dreams and wakes up. The waking state is<br />

considered to be full of beautiful and interesting things. The absence<br />

of such experiences makes one say that the sleep state is dull. Before<br />

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