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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: Mind - mind what is it? It is a mixture of Chit (intelligence) and<br />

sankalpas (thoughts). Therefore it forms all these - the mirror, light,<br />

darkness and the reflections.<br />

D.: But I do not see it.<br />

M.: Chidakasa (chit-ether) is Pure Knowledge only, It is the source<br />

of mind. Just at the moment of rising up, the mind is only light;<br />

only afterwards the thought “I am this” rises up; this ‘I-thought’<br />

forms the jiva and the world.<br />

The first light is the pure mind, the mind ether or Isvara. Its modes<br />

manifest as objects. Because it contains all these objects <strong>with</strong>in<br />

itself it is called the mind-ether. Why ether? Like ether containing<br />

objects it contains the thoughts, therefore it is the mind-ether.<br />

Again, just as the physical ether though accommodating all the gross objects<br />

(the whole universe) is itself the content of the mind-ether, so also the latter<br />

is itself the content of Chit-ether. The last one is Chit Itself. There are no<br />

things contained in it. It remains as Pure Knowledge only.<br />

D.: Why call it ether? Physical ether is not sentient.<br />

M.: Ether denotes not only the insentient physical ether but also Pure<br />

Knowledge. Knowledge does not consist in knowing objects: this is<br />

relative knowledge. But Knowledge in its purity remains all alone,<br />

One, unique, transcendent Light!<br />

D.: Well - should we be imagining it in our meditation?<br />

M.: Why imagine? We can think of another only if we are independent<br />

of it, whereas here we cannot remain independent of this Pure<br />

Knowledge. Rather, only IT is! How can It be imagined to be so<br />

and so or such and such?<br />

D.: How are we to proceed?<br />

M.: Only get rid of the non-self.<br />

D.: It looks all right now; but later it is all f<strong>org</strong>otten.<br />

M.: Your f<strong>org</strong>etfulness implies knowledge, for you know you f<strong>org</strong>ot;<br />

otherwise how can you speak of f<strong>org</strong>etting it? So f<strong>org</strong>etfulness also<br />

is Chit-akasa (Chit-ether) only.<br />

D.: How then is it not clear to me?<br />

M.: Chit is knowledge pure and simple. The mind proceeds from it;<br />

the mind is made up of thoughts. Darkness or ignorance interposing.<br />

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