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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: You are always in the Self and there is no reaching it. The eyebrow<br />

is only a place where attention is to be fixed (seat of meditation<br />

- upasanasthana).<br />

D.: You have spoken of the Heart as the seat of meditation?<br />

M.: Yes, it is also that.<br />

D.: What is Heart?<br />

M.: It is the centre of the Self. The Self is the centre of centres. The<br />

Heart represents the psychic centre and not the physical centre.<br />

D.: The term ‘jnana’ is realised Wisdom. The same term is used for<br />

the method also. Why?<br />

M.: ‘Jnana’ includes the method also because it ultimately results<br />

in realisation.<br />

D.: Is a man to engage in teaching his knowledge however imperfect?<br />

M.: If his prarabdha be that way.<br />

In the seventh chapter, Arjuna asks if Karma is a method<br />

(sadhana). Krishna answers that it is so if done <strong>with</strong>out the sense<br />

of doership.<br />

So also are Karmas approved by scriptures which deny Karma. The<br />

Karma disapproved by them is that which is done <strong>with</strong> the sense of<br />

doership. Do not leave Karma. You cannot do so. Give up the sense<br />

of doership. Karma will go on automatically. Or Karma will drop<br />

away from you. If Karma be your lot according to prarabdha, it will<br />

surely be done whether you will it or not; if Karma be not your lot,<br />

it will not be done even if you intently engage in it. Janaka, Suka,<br />

etc., were also in work <strong>with</strong>out ahankara, Karma may be done for<br />

fame, or may be done unselfishly and for the public good. Yet even<br />

then they want applause. So it is really selfish.<br />

D.: What is that one thing, knowing which all doubts are solved?<br />

M.: Know the doubter. If the doubter be held, the doubts will not<br />

arise. Here the doubter is transcendent. Again when the doubter<br />

ceases to exist, there will be no doubts arising. From where will<br />

they arise? All are jnanis, jivanmuktas. Only they are not aware<br />

of the fact. Doubts must be uprooted. This means that the doubter<br />

must be uprooted. Here the doubter is the mind.<br />

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