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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

10th November, 1938<br />

A question was asked why it was wrong to say that there is a<br />

multiplicity of jivas. Jivas are certainly many. For a jiva is only the<br />

ego and forms the reflected light of the Self. Multiplicity of selves<br />

may be wrong but not of jivas.<br />

M.: Jiva is called so because he sees the world. A dreamer sees many<br />

jivas in a dream but all of them are not real. The dreamer alone<br />

exists and he sees all. So it is <strong>with</strong> the individual and the world.<br />

There is the creed of only one Self which is also called the creed of<br />

only one jiva. It says that the jiva is only one who sees the whole<br />

world and the jivas therein.<br />

D.: Then jiva means the Self here.<br />

M.: So it is. But the Self is not a seer. But here he is said to see the<br />

world. So he is differentiated as the Jiva.<br />

Talk 572.<br />

D.: Of what use is the fear of death which is common to all?<br />

M.: True, it is common to all. Such fear serves no useful purpose<br />

because being overpowered by the latent tendencies of the mind<br />

the man dies a natural death. It does not lead him to non-attachment<br />

and he cannot investigate the matter.<br />

D.: How then are you giving the same instruction <strong>with</strong>out distinction<br />

to visitors?<br />

M.: What do I say? The ego in each one must die. Let him reflect<br />

on it. Is there this ego or is there not? By repeated reflection one<br />

becomes more and more fit.<br />

11th November, 1938<br />

Talk 573.<br />

Mr. Ranganatha Ayyar, a devotee of fourteen years’ standing, is on<br />

a visit here. He asked: How long is the interval between one’s death<br />

and reincarnation?<br />

M.: It may be long or short. But a Jnani does not have any such<br />

changes; he merges into the universal Being, so says the<br />

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad.<br />

549

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