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Talk 565.<br />

<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

A gentleman from Mysore asked: How is the mind to be kept in the<br />

right way?<br />

M.: By practice. Give it good thoughts. The mind must be trained in<br />

good ways.<br />

D.: But it is not steady.<br />

M.: The Bhagavad Gita says: Sanaissanairuparamet (The mind must<br />

gradually be brought to a standstill); Atma samstham manah krtva<br />

(making the mind inhere in the Self); Abhyasa-vairagyabhyam (by<br />

practice and dispassion).<br />

Practice is necessary. Progress will be slow.<br />

D.: What is the Self referred to in Atma samstham (fixing it in<br />

the Self)?<br />

M.: Do you not know your Self? You certainly exist. Or do you deny<br />

your existence? The question may arise “Who is this Self”, only if<br />

you do not exist, but you cannot ask anything unless you exist at<br />

the same time. Your question shows that you exist. Find out who<br />

you are. That is all.<br />

D.: I have read many books. But my mind does not turn to the Self.<br />

M.: Because the Self is not in the books; but it is in you. Reading<br />

books makes one learned. That is its purpose and it is fulfilled.<br />

D.: What is Atma sakshatkara (Self-Realisation)?<br />

M.: You are the Atma (Self) and that sakshat (here and now) also.<br />

Where is the place for kara (accomplishment) in it? This question<br />

shows that you think you are the non-Self. Or you think that there<br />

are two selves, the one to realise the other. It is absurd.<br />

That you identify yourself <strong>with</strong> the gross body lies at the root of<br />

this question. Well, this question arises now. Did it arise in your<br />

sleep? Did you not exist then? Certainly you did exist in sleep.<br />

What is the difference between these two states that the question<br />

should arise now but not in sleep? Now you think that you are the<br />

body. You see things around you and you want to see the Self in<br />

a similar manner. Such is the force of habit. The senses are mere<br />

instruments of perception. You are the seer. Remain as the seer only.<br />

What else is there to see? Such is the state in deep sleep.<br />

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