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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan asked if the gentleman had read Devikalottaram. He<br />

then said that abhichara prayoga (black magic) is condemned there.<br />

He also added that by such practices one compasses one’s own ruin.<br />

Avidya (ignorance) is itself bad and makes one commit suicide. Why<br />

should black magic be also added to it?<br />

D.: What is the pratikriya (remedy) open to the victim of black magic?<br />

M.: Bhakti (devotion to God).<br />

D.: Non-resistance seems to be the only remedy for all kinds of evil<br />

such as slander.<br />

M.: Quite so. If one abuses another or injures him the remedy does<br />

not lie in retort or resistance. Simply keep quiet. This quiet will<br />

bring peace to the injured but make the offender restless until he<br />

is driven to admit his error to the injured party.<br />

This black magic is said to have been used even against the greatest<br />

saints in India since time immemorial. The tapasvis of Daruka<br />

forest used it against Siva Himself.<br />

Then the conversation turned on Brahmaloka.<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said Brahmaloka is the same as Atmaloka. Again<br />

Brahmaiva lokah = Brahmalokah (Brahma is Himself the region)<br />

and Brahma is Atma. So Brahmaloka is only the Self.<br />

Loka, aloka are both synonymous. It is the same as andamillakkan in<br />

Ulladu Narpadu. Lokyate iti lokah (That which is seen is loka).<br />

27th September, 1938<br />

Talk 518.<br />

Mr. V. Gupta, a Telugu Pandit, is on a visit here. <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said in<br />

the course of conversation: Ahamkriti (the ego) is not the same as aham.<br />

The latter is the Supreme Reality whereas the former is the ego. It is<br />

to be overcome before the Truth is realised. The Supreme Being is<br />

unmanifest and the first sign of manifestation is Aham Sphurana (light<br />

of ‘I’). The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad says Aham nama abhavat (He<br />

became ‘I’ named). That is the original name of the Reality.<br />

The Pandit asked about the operation of Grace. Is it the mind of the<br />

Guru acting on the mind of the disciple or anything different?<br />

517

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