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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: What is the ‘final emancipation’ according to the foregoing<br />

explanation?<br />

M.: The ativahika or the sukshma sarira corresponds to the pure light<br />

which one experiences just after sleep and before the rise of the ego.<br />

It is Cosmic Consciousness. That is only the Light reflected from<br />

the Heart. When the reflection ceases and abides as the Original<br />

Light in the Heart it is final emancipation.<br />

D.: But Yoga Vasishtha says that the chitta (mind) of a jivanmukta is<br />

achala (unchanging).<br />

M.: So it is. Achala chitta (unchanging mind) is the same as suddha<br />

manas (pure mind). The jnani’s manas is said to be suddha manas.<br />

The Yoga Vasishtha also says that Brahman is no other than the<br />

jnani’s mind. So Brahman is suddha manas only.<br />

D.: Will the description of Brahman as Sat-Chit-Ananda suit<br />

this suddha manas? For this too will be destroyed in the final<br />

emancipation.<br />

M.: If suddha manas is admitted, the Bliss (Ananda) experienced<br />

by the Jnani must also be admitted to be reflected. This reflection<br />

must finally merge into the Original. Therefore the jivanmukti<br />

state is compared to the reflection of a spotless mirror in another<br />

similar mirror. What will be found in such a reflection? Pure Akasa<br />

(Ether). Similarly, the jnani’s reflected Bliss (Ananda) represents<br />

only the true Bliss.<br />

These are all only words. It is enough that a person becomes<br />

antarmukhi (inward-bent). The sastras are not needed for an<br />

inward turned mind. They are meant for the rest.<br />

Talk 514.<br />

Mr. MacIver, a resident devotee, asked <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan if he might go<br />

to Switzerland where a Guru was inviting him. <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said:<br />

Some Force brought him here and the same is taking him to Europe.<br />

Let him always remember that the world is only a projection of the<br />

mind, and the mind is in the Self. Wherever the body may move the<br />

mind must be kept under control. The body moves, but not the Self.<br />

The world is <strong>with</strong>in the Self, that is all.<br />

515

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