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senses can be recognised by them as knowledge: this habit is so strong
with them. A stanza in Thevaram says: “O sages, eager to get over all
misery, worry not about inferences and examples! Our Light is ever
shining forth from within! With mind clear, live in God!”
This is direct perception. Will the common people admit it? They want
God to appear in front of them as a bright Being mounted on a bull.
Such a vision once originated must also end. It is therefore transient.
Thevaram speaks of the Eternal and Ever-experienced Being. This
Thevaram takes one directly to the Reality.
16th September, 1938
Talk 513.
Major Chadwick again gave his versified translation of the mantra for Sri
Bhagavan to read. Sri Bhagavan softly spoke of the interpretation of the
Bhashyakara and further explained the same. To consider the Brahmaloka
as a region is also admissible. That is what the pouraniks say and many
other schools also imply it by expounding kramamukti (liberation by
degrees). But the Upanishads speak of sadyomukti (immediate liberation)
as in Na tasya prana utkramanti; ihaiva praleeyante - the pranas do not
rise up; they lose themselves here. So Brahmaloka will be Realisation of
Brahman (Brahmasakshatkara). It is a state and not a region. In the latter
case, paramritat must be properly understood. It is para inasmuch as
avyakrita is the causal Energy transcending the universe, amrita because
it persists until the Self is realised. So that paramritat will mean avyakrita.
The kramamukti (liberation by degrees) school say that the upasaka goes
to the region of his Ishta Devata which is Brahmaloka to him. The souls
passing to all other lokas return to be reborn. But those who have gained
the Brahmaloka do not. Moreover those desirous of a particular loka can
by proper methods gain the same. Whereas Brahmaloka cannot be gained
so long as there is any desire left in the person. Desirelessness alone will
confer the loka on him. His desirelessness signifies the absence of the
incentive for rebirth.
The age of Brahma is practically immeasurable. The presiding deity of
the loka is said to have a definite period of life. When he passes away
his loka also is dissolved. The inmates are emancipated at the same
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