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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

proclaimed by Vedanta, get fully released in the Brahmaloka from<br />

the causal Maya at the dissolution of the body.<br />

That alone which shines as the tiny Akasa void of sorrow, in the<br />

lotus heart, the tiny seat of the spotless Supreme in the (inner)<br />

core of the body is worthy of worship.<br />

He alone is the Supreme Lord, who is beyond the Primal Word<br />

which is the beginning and end of the Veda and in which merges<br />

the creative Cause].<br />

Mr. T. K. S. Iyer later asked something about muktaloka (region of liberated<br />

souls). <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said that it meant the same as Brahmaloka.<br />

D.: Asked if some sukshma tanu (subtle body) such as pranava tanu<br />

or suddha tanu (tanu = body; suddha = pure) was required to gain<br />

such loka.<br />

M.: Pranava means real japa. It is however interpreted to be A, U, M,<br />

Nada and Bindu. Of these, the first three are interpreted as Visva,<br />

Taijasa, Prajna and Virat, Hiranyagarbha, Isvara, Nada and Bindu<br />

correspond to prana and manas (mind).<br />

The Mandukya Upanishad speaks of the three matras and turiya<br />

matra. The final meaning is that it represents the real state.<br />

To a further question, Bhagavan answered: There are said to<br />

be Panchapada Mahavakyani (mahavakyas <strong>with</strong> five words) e.g.,<br />

Tattvamasi atinijam (‘you are that’ is the great truth). The first three<br />

words have their lakshya artha (significance) all of which signify<br />

only the one Truth. So many efforts and so much discipline are said<br />

to be necessary for eradicating the non-existing avidya!<br />

11th September, 1938<br />

Talk 512.<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said: All mistake the mind-consciousness for Self-<br />

Consciousness. There is no mind in deep sleep; but no one denies his<br />

being in sleep. Even a child says on waking, “I slept well,” and does not<br />

deny its existence. The ‘I’ rises up, the mind turns outward through the<br />

five senses and perceives objects, this they call direct perception. Asked<br />

if ‘I’ is not directly perceived, they get confused, because ‘I’ does not<br />

announce itself as an object in front and only the perception <strong>with</strong> the<br />

512

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