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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: Mahatma Gandhi also admits equality...<br />

M.: Gandhi is not here.<br />

D.: Aurobindo does not approve of castes. Do you approve of them?<br />

M.: As for Aurobindo, you ask him. As for my opinion, how does it matter<br />

to you? How will it be of use to you? Have you got any opinion on the<br />

matter? That alone will affect you, not the opinion of others.<br />

D.: I do not approve of the caste system. Mahatma’s opinion is<br />

valuable as a guidance. I want your blessings in my attempts.<br />

M.: Mahatma has told you to seek and find your Self. You will not<br />

do it but require his blessings.<br />

D.: I am trying to follow the instructions. But caste-distinction is<br />

painful. It must go.<br />

M.: To whom does it cause pain?<br />

D.: The members of the society...<br />

M.: It is you who say it. There are countries where there are no such<br />

distinctions of caste. Are they free from trouble? There are wars,<br />

internecine struggle, etc. Why do you not remedy the evils there?<br />

D.: There are troubles here also.<br />

M.: Differences are always there. There are not only human beings, but<br />

also animals, plants, etc. The state of affairs cannot be helped.<br />

D.: We do not mind the animals, etc., at present.<br />

M.: Why not? If they could speak they would claim equality <strong>with</strong> you<br />

and dispute your claims no less vigorously than human beings.<br />

D.: But we cannot help it. It is God’s work.<br />

M.: If that is God’s work then the other part is your work, is that so?<br />

D.: It is man-made distinction.<br />

M.: You need not notice these distinctions. There is diversity in the<br />

world. A unity runs through the diversity. The Self is the same in<br />

all. There is no difference in spirit. All the differences are external<br />

and superficial. You find out the Unity and be happy.<br />

The pain of diversity is overcome by the joy of the perception of<br />

unity. Moreover, a king may disguise himself as a servant. That<br />

makes no difference in the person.<br />

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