Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi Complete ... - BrahminVoice.org

Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
D.: Should there be distinction of castes?
M.: Who is it that sees such distinction? Find it out.
D.: I find that it is observed in this Asramam. Probably without the
approval of Sri Bhagavan others observe it here.
M.: Who are you that speak of others, etc.? Did you notice others,
etc., in your sushupti?
D.: I am the individuality here. I may not see others in my sleep but
I see them now.
M.: No doubt you do. But the one who sees now and the one who did
not see in sleep are you only - the same individual. Why should you
notice differences now and be troubled? Be as you were in sleep.
D.: That cannot be. I see it now whereas I do not see it in my sleep.
That does not alter the existing state of affairs.
M.: Do the objects exist in the absence of the subject?
D.: Their existence is independent of the subject.
M.: Do you say that they exist, or do they come and announce their
existence to you?
D.: I know that they exist.
M.: So it is your knowledge of them only. Their existence is not
absolute.
D.: Even if I did not know they will continue to exist.
M.: Do you claim their existence in the absence of your knowledge
of them? (Laughter).
D.: Brahman is equal to all. There cannot be any distinction there.
Caste-distinction is against the highest principle.
M.: Why do you drag in Brahman? He has no grievances. Let him
who has grievances pursue the matter.
D.: You are a Mahatma. You cannot admit castes. But how do the
people here enforce such distinctions?
M.: Did I tell you that I am a Jnani or a mahatma? You are saying it
yourself. Nor did I make a grievance of this caste affair.
D.: Paramatma is the same in all.
M.: Why do you bring in all these names? They can take care of
themselves. They do not require your help.
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