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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: The ego.<br />

M.: Yes. The body and the ego rise up together and sink together. There<br />

is an occasion when you are not associated <strong>with</strong> the ego in deep sleep.<br />

Now you are associated <strong>with</strong> the ego. Of these two states which is<br />

your real state? You are present in sleep and the same “You” is present<br />

now too. Why should the doubt arise now and not then? You are<br />

right in saying that it is for the ego. You are not the ego. The ego is<br />

intermediate between the Self and the body. You are the Self. Find<br />

out the origin of the ego and see if the doubt persists.<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan added after a few minutes: The answer, according to<br />

sastras, will be that the body is due to karma. The question will be<br />

how did karma arise? We must say “from a previous body” and so on<br />

<strong>with</strong>out end. The direct method of attack is not to depend on invisible<br />

hypotheses but to ask “Whose Karma is it? Or whose body?” Hence<br />

I answered in this manner. This is more purposeful.<br />

14th August, 1938<br />

Talk 502.<br />

Sjt. Rajendra Prasad and Sjt. Jamnalal Bajaj <strong>with</strong> others are on a visit<br />

to <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong>.<br />

16th August - Sjt. J. B. asked questions:<br />

D.: How is the mind to be steadily kept right?<br />

M.: All living beings are aware of their surroundings and therefore<br />

intellect must be surmised in all of them. At the same time, there is<br />

a difference between the intellect of man and that of other animals,<br />

because man not only sees the world as it is and acts accordingly,<br />

but also seeks fulfilment of desires and is not satisfied <strong>with</strong> the<br />

existing state of affairs. In his attempt to fulfil his desires he extends<br />

his vision far and wide and yet he turns away dissatisfied. He now<br />

begins to think and reason.<br />

The desire for permanency of happiness and of peace bespeaks<br />

such permanency in his own nature. Therefore he seeks to find and<br />

regain his own nature, i.e., his Self. That found, all is found.<br />

Such inward seeking is the path to be gained by man’s intellect. The<br />

intellect itself realises after continuous practice that it is enabled by<br />

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