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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: True. See if you are the seeker. The Self is often mistaken for the<br />

knower. Is there not the Self in deep sleep, i.e., nescience? Therefore<br />

the Self is beyond knower and knowledge. These doubts are in the<br />

realm of mind. To speak from this point of view, the advice is to keep<br />

the mind clear, and when rajas and tamas are wiped off, then the satva<br />

mind alone exists. So the ‘I’ vanishes in the satva (oonadhal kan).<br />

Jnana chakshus does not mean that it is an <strong>org</strong>an of perception<br />

like the other sense-<strong>org</strong>ans. Jnanameva chakshuh. Television, etc.,<br />

are not functions of jnana chakshus. So long as there is a subject<br />

and also an object it is only relative knowledge. Jnana lies beyond<br />

relative knowledge. It is absolute.<br />

The Self is the source of subject and object. Now ignorance<br />

prevailing, the subject is taken to be the source. The subject is the<br />

knower and forms one of the triads whose components cannot exist<br />

independent of one another. So the subject or the knower cannot be<br />

the ultimate Reality. Reality lies beyond subject and object. When<br />

realised there will be no room for doubt.<br />

“Bhidyate hridayagranthih<br />

chhidyante sarvasamsayah.”<br />

The heart knot is snapped; doubts are set at rest. That is called<br />

pratyaksha and not what you are thinking of. Avidya nasa is alone<br />

Self-Realisation. Self-Realisation is only owpacharika. Self-<br />

Realisation is only a euphemism for elimination of ignorance.<br />

Talk 501.<br />

A young Mysorean asked:<br />

D.: How did I get this body?<br />

12th July, 1938<br />

M.: You speak of ‘I’ and the ‘body’. There is the relationship between<br />

the two. You are not therefore the body. The question does not occur<br />

to the body because it is inert. There is an occasion when you are<br />

not aware of the body - namely, in deep sleep. The question does<br />

not arise then. Nevertheless you are there in sleep. To whom does<br />

the question arise now?<br />

498

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