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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Samadhi is present even in vyavaharadasa (practical life). Our<br />

activities (vyavahara) have no existence apart from samadhi. The<br />

screen is there when the pictures move past on it and also when they<br />

are not projected. Similarly, the Self is always there in vyavahara<br />

(activity) or in shanti (peace).<br />

Talk 498.<br />

People often say that a mukta purusha should go out and preach his<br />

message to the people. They argue, how can anyone be a mukta so<br />

long as there is misery by his side? True. But who is a mukta? Does<br />

he see misery beside him? They want to determine the state of a<br />

mukta <strong>with</strong>out themselves realising the state. From the standpoint of<br />

the mukta their contention amounts to this: a man dreams a dream<br />

in which he finds several persons. On waking up, he asks, “Have the<br />

dream individuals also wakened?” It is ridiculous.<br />

Again, a good man says, “It does not matter even if I do not get mukti.<br />

Or let me be the last man to get it so that I shall help all others to<br />

be muktas before I am one.” It is all very good. Imagine a dreamer<br />

saying, “May all these wake up before I do”. The dreamer is no more<br />

absurd than the amiable philosopher aforesaid.<br />

Talk 499.<br />

The Swami of <strong>Sri</strong> Ramakrishna Mission had more questions to ask:<br />

Swamiji, I went up the hill to see the asramas in which you lived in<br />

your youth. I have also read your life. May I know if you did not then<br />

feel that there is God to whom you should pray or that you should<br />

practise something in order to reach this state?<br />

M.: Read the life and you will understand. Jnana and ajnana are of<br />

the same degree of truth; that is, both are imagined by the ignorant;<br />

that is not true from the standpoint of the Jnani.<br />

D.: Is a Jnani capable or likely to commit sins?<br />

M.: An ajnani sees someone as a Jnani and identifies him <strong>with</strong> the<br />

body. Because he does not know the Self and, mistakes his body<br />

for the Self, he extends the same mistake to the state of the Jnani.<br />

The Jnani is therefore considered to be the physical frame.<br />

495

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