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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
9th June, 1938
Talk 496.
A Swami belonging to Sri Ramakrishna Mission had a very interesting
conversation with Sri Bhagavan in the course of which Sri Bhagavan
observed:
M.: Avidya (ignorance) is the obstacle for knowing your true nature
even at the present moment.
D.: How is one to get over Avidya?
M.: Ya na vidyate sa avidya (What is not, is avidya). So it is itself a myth. If
it really be, how can it perish? Its being is false and so it disappears.
D.: Although I understand it intellectually, I cannot realise the Self.
M.: Why should this thought disturb your present state of realisation.
D.: The Self is One, but yet I do not find myself free from the present
trouble.
M.: Who says this? Is it the Self which is only one? The question
contradicts itself.
D.: Grace is necessary for realisation.
M.: Inasmuch as you, being a man, now understand that there is a
higher power guiding you, it is due to Grace. Grace is within you.
Isvaro gururatmeti (Isvara, Guru and the Self are synonymous).
D.: I pray for that Grace.
M.: Yes, yes.
10th June, 1938
Talk 497.
In the course of a different conversation. Sri Bhagavan said:
Satva is the light,
Rajas is the subject, and
Tamas is the object.
Even the satva light is only reflected light. Were it pure, original Light,
there would be no modification in it. The manokasa (mind-ether) is
reflected as bhootakasa (element-ether) and objects are seen as being
separate from the subject.
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