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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: Samskaras are said to persist even in a Jnani.<br />

M.: Yes. They are bhoga hetu (leading to enjoyment only) and not<br />

bandha hetu.<br />

D.: This fact is often abused by fakes who pretend to be sadhus but lead<br />

vicious lives. They say it is prarabdha (remnant of past Karma).<br />

How shall we mark off the fakes from the genuine sadhus?<br />

M.: The one who has given up the idea of being the doer cannot<br />

repeat, “This is my prarabdha”. “The jnanis lead different lives”<br />

is said for the benefit of others. The jnanis cannot make use of this<br />

in explanation of their lives and conduct.<br />

(After a few minutes, <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan remarked about Mr. Kishorelal’s<br />

weak body).<br />

Mr. Kishorelal: I am asthmatic. I have never been strong. Even as a<br />

baby I was not fed on my mother’s milk.<br />

M.: Here the mind is strong and the body is weak.<br />

D.: I wanted to practise Raja Yoga. I could not do it because of<br />

my physical unfitness. The mind also began to wander <strong>with</strong> the<br />

movement of the body.<br />

M.: If the mind be kept immovable let the body change as much as<br />

it likes.<br />

D.: Is it not a handicap to the beginner?<br />

M.: Attempts must be made in spite of handicaps.<br />

D.: Of course. But they will be momentary.<br />

M.: The idea of ‘momentary’ is one among so many other ideas. So<br />

long as thoughts persist this idea also will recur. Concentration is<br />

our own nature (i.e. BE-ing). There is the effort now: but it ceases<br />

after Self-Realisation.<br />

D.: It is said to be the interval between flights of mind<br />

M.: This too is due to the activity of the mind.<br />

The Devotee submitted that whenever he had thought that he had found<br />

something original, he later discovered that he was already forestalled.<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan pointed out that everything remains already in the<br />

germinal form and so there can be nothing new.<br />

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