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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
M.: Maharshi has no doubts to be cleared.
D.: Well, I consider the goal to be the realisation by the lower mind
of the higher mind so that the Kingdom of Heaven might endure
here on earth. The lower mind is incomplete and it must be made
perfect by realisation of the higher mind.
M.: So then you admit a lower mind which is incomplete and which seeks
realisation of the higher so that it may become perfect. Is that lower
mind apart from the higher mind? Is it independent of the other?
D.: The Kingdom of Heaven was brought down on Earth by Jesus
Christ. I consider Him to be the Kingdom personified. I want
everyone to realise the same. He said: “I am hungry with other
men’s hunger;” and so on. Mutual partnership in pleasure and
pain is the Kingdom of Heaven. If that Kingdom is universalised
everyone will feel at one with the rest.
M.: You speak of the differences between the lower and the higher
minds, pleasures and pains. What becomes of these differences in
your sleep?
D.: But I want to be wide awake.
M.: Is this your wide awakened state? It is not. It is only a dream in
your long sleep. All are in sleep, dreaming of the world and things
and actions.
D.: This is all Vedantic, I have no use for it. The existing differences
are not imaginary. They are positive. However, what is that real
waking? Can Maharshi tell us what he has found it to be?
M.: Real waking lies beyond the three states of waking, dream and
sleep.
D.: I am really awake and know that I am not in sleep.
M.: Real waking lies beyond the plane of differences.
D.: What is the state of the world then?
M.: Does the world come and tell you “I exist”?
D.: No. But the people in the world tell me that the world needs
spiritual, social and moral regeneration.
M.: You see the world and the people in it. They are your thoughts.
Can the world be apart from you?
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