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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: I think of Arunachala, but still I am not a mukta.<br />

M.: Change of outlook is all that is necessary. See what such a change<br />

did for Arjuna. He had the vision, of the Cosmic Self. <strong>Sri</strong> Krishna<br />

says: “Gods and saints are eager to see my Cosmic Form. I have<br />

not fulfilled their desire. Yet I endow divine sight by which you can<br />

see that Form.” Well, having said so, does He show what He is?<br />

No. He asks Arjuna to see in Him all that he desires to see. If that<br />

were His real form it must be changeless and known for what it is<br />

worth. Instead, Arjuna is commanded to see whatever he desires.<br />

So where is the Cosmic Form? It must be in Arjuna.<br />

Furthermore, Arjuna finds Gods and saints in that form and they<br />

are praising the Lord. If the form be <strong>with</strong>held from the Gods and<br />

saints as said by Krishna, who are they of Arjuna’s vision?<br />

D.: They must be in his imagination.<br />

M.: They are there because of Arjuna’s outlook.<br />

D.: Then the outlook must be changed by God’s Grace.<br />

M.: Yes. That happens to bhaktas.<br />

D.: A man dreams of a tiger, takes fright and wakes up. The dreamtiger<br />

appears to the dream ego who is also frightened. When he<br />

wakes up how is it that that ego disappears, and the man wakes up<br />

as the waking ego?<br />

M.: That establishes that the ego is the same. Dream, wakefulness<br />

and sleep are passing phases for the same ego.<br />

D.: It is so difficult to spot the mind. The same difficulty is shared<br />

by all.<br />

M.: You can never find the mind through mind. Pass beyond it in order<br />

to find it non-existent.<br />

D.: Then one must directly go to seek the ego. Is it so?<br />

M.: That’s it.<br />

Mind, ego, intellect are all different names for one single inner<br />

<strong>org</strong>an (antahkarana). The mind is only the aggregate of thoughts.<br />

Thoughts cannot exist but for the ego. So all thoughts are pervaded<br />

by ego (aham). Seek wherefrom the ‘I’ rises and the other thoughts<br />

will disappear.<br />

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