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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: It is all right for mahatmas like <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan to speak out so plainly.<br />

Because the Truth does not swerve from you, you consider it easy for<br />

all others. Nevertheless, the common folk have a real difficulty.<br />

M.: Then does anyone say that he is not the Self?<br />

D.: I meant to say that no one else has the courage to put things<br />

straight like <strong>Maharshi</strong>.<br />

M.: Where is the courage in saying things as they are?<br />

Talk 470.<br />

As a European Countess was leaving for Europe tonight she requested<br />

him to bless her and her family.<br />

M.: You do not go anywhere away from the Presence as you imagine.<br />

The Presence is everywhere. The body moves from place to place;<br />

yet it does not leave the one Presence. So no one can be out of sight<br />

of the Supreme Presence. Since you identify one body <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong><br />

Bhagavan and another body <strong>with</strong> yourself, you find two separate<br />

entities and speak of going away from here. Wherever you may<br />

be, you cannot leave ME.<br />

To illustrate it: The pictures move on the screen in a cinema show;<br />

but does the screen itself move? No. The Presence is the screen:<br />

you, I, and others are the pictures. The individuals may move but<br />

not the Self.<br />

Talk 471.<br />

D.: The avatars are said to be more glorious than the self-realised<br />

jnanis. Maya does not affect them from birth; divine powers are<br />

manifest; new religions are started; and so on.<br />

M.: (1) “Jnani tvatmaiva me matam.”<br />

(2) “Sarvam khalvidam brahma.”<br />

How is an avatar different from a Jnani; or how can there be an<br />

avatar as distinct from the universe?<br />

D.: The eye (chakshu) is said to be the repository (ayatana) of all<br />

forms; so the ear (srotra) is of all sounds, etc. The one Chaitanya<br />

operates as all; no miracles are possible <strong>with</strong>out the aid of the<br />

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