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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: Yes. Being attached, he acts and also reaps the fruits. If the fruits<br />

are according to his desire he is happy; otherwise he is miserable.<br />

Happiness and misery are due to his attachment. If actions were to take<br />

place <strong>with</strong>out attachment there would be no expectation of fruit.<br />

D.: Can actions take place spontaneously <strong>with</strong>out individual effort?<br />

Should we not cook our food in order to eat it later?<br />

M.: Atman acts through the ego. All actions are due to efforts only. A<br />

sleeping child is fed by its mother. The child eats food <strong>with</strong>out being<br />

wide awake and then denies having taken food in sleep. However the<br />

mother knows what happened. Similarly the Jnani acts unawares.<br />

Others see him act, but he does not know it himself. Owing to fear<br />

of Him wind blows, etc. That is the order of things. He ordains<br />

everything and the universe acts accordingly, yet He does not<br />

know. Therefore He is called the great Doer. Every embodied being<br />

(ahankari) is bound by niyama. Even Brahma cannot transgress it.<br />

[This devotee later explained the significance of his question. He<br />

hears <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan say that the world goes on and the individual<br />

needs are met by Divine Will. But he finds that <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan wakes<br />

up the Asramites at about 4 a.m. to cut vegetables for the day’s<br />

curry. He wanted to have the doubt cleared for his own benefit and<br />

the question was not meant for discussion].<br />

10th March, 1938<br />

Talk 468.<br />

As <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan was going out, the following Vedic chant was heard<br />

from a hut:<br />

Antaraditya manasa jvalantam - Brahmana vindat. <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan<br />

drew our attention to it and remarked:-<br />

In the Taittriya Upanishad also, He is said to be made of gold, etc.<br />

What does it all mean? Although the sun and the other luminaries are<br />

said to be self luminous, yet they do not shine forth of themselves<br />

but they shine by the light of the Supreme Being. (na tatra<br />

suryo....vibhati). So long as they are said to be separate from Brahman<br />

their ‘Self-luminosity’ is the luminosity of Brahman. All these mantras<br />

mentioning the sun, etc., speak only of Brahman.<br />

457

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