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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

One of the ladies was not satisfied <strong>with</strong> this answer and asked for<br />

further elucidation.<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan then pointed out that to see wrong in another is<br />

one’s own wrong. The discrimination between right and wrong<br />

is the origin of the sin. One’s own sin is reflected outside and the<br />

individual in ignorance superimposes it on another. The best course<br />

for one is to reach the state in which such discrimination does not<br />

arise. Do you see wrong or right in your sleep? Did you not exist<br />

in sleep? Be asleep even in the wakeful state. Abide as the Self and<br />

remain uncontaminated by what goes on around.<br />

Moreover, however much you might advise them, your hearers may<br />

not rectify themselves. Be in the right yourself and remain silent.<br />

Your silence will have more effect than your words or deeds. That<br />

is the development of will-power. Then the world becomes the<br />

Kingdom of Heaven, which is <strong>with</strong>in you.<br />

D.: If one is to <strong>with</strong>draw oneself, why is there the world?<br />

M.: Where is the world and where does one go <strong>with</strong>drawing oneself?<br />

Does one fly in an aeroplane beyond space? Is it <strong>with</strong>drawal?<br />

The fact is this: the world is only an idea. What do you say: Are<br />

you <strong>with</strong>in the world or is the world <strong>with</strong>in you?<br />

D.: I am in the world. I am part of it.<br />

M.: That is the mistake. If the world were to exist apart from you, does<br />

it come and tell you that it exists? No, you see it exists. You see it<br />

when you are awake and not when asleep. If it exists apart from you,<br />

it must tell you so and you must be aware of it even in your sleep.<br />

D.: I became aware of it in my jagrat.<br />

M.: Do you become aware of yourself and then of the world? Or do<br />

you become aware of the world and then of yourself? Or do you<br />

become aware of both simultaneously?<br />

D.: I must say simultaneously.<br />

M.: Were you or were you not, before becoming aware of yourself? Do<br />

you admit your continued existence before and when you become<br />

aware of the world?<br />

D.: Yes.<br />

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