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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: Is it then wrong to say that some have seen it?<br />

M.: It is true in the same degree as you are. The Gita begins saying<br />

that no one was born; in the fourth chapter it says, “the numerous<br />

incarnations, yours and mine, have taken place; I know them but<br />

you do not.” Of these two statements, which is the truth? The<br />

instruction is according to the listener’s understanding. If the<br />

second chapter contains the whole Truth, why should so many<br />

more chapters follow it?<br />

In the Bible God says “I AM before Abraham.” He does not say<br />

“I was” but “I AM.”<br />

Talk 437.<br />

M.: People have read of Vivekananda having asked <strong>Sri</strong> Ramakrishna,<br />

“Have you seen God?” and imitate him now. They also ask, “Have<br />

you realised God?”<br />

I ask what is realisation.<br />

Realisation implies perfection. When you are limited, your<br />

perception also is limited. Your knowledge is thus imperfect. Of<br />

what value is that imperfect knowledge?<br />

In Visvarupa Darsan, Arjuna is told to see whatever he desired<br />

and not what was presented before him. How can that darsan be<br />

real?<br />

Talk 438.<br />

30th December, 1937<br />

A visitor asked: For beginners like me which is most suited: either<br />

worship of qualified God or contemplation of “I am Brahman”?<br />

M.: The answer is contained in the question. The question itself shows<br />

it to be worship of qualified God.<br />

D.: “I” is felt in the waking and dream states but not in deep sleep.<br />

Why so?<br />

M.: If so, does it not exist in deep sleep?<br />

D.: Because there are mental modes in these two states and no such<br />

mode in the other.<br />

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