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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

(a) Is omniscience of God consistent <strong>with</strong> ego’s freewill?<br />

(b) Is omnipotence of God consistent <strong>with</strong> ego’s freewill?<br />

(c) Are the natural laws consistent <strong>with</strong> God’s free-will?<br />

M.: Yes. Free-will is the present appearing to a limited faculty of<br />

sight and will. The same ego sees its past activity as falling into a<br />

course of ‘law’ or rules - its own free-will being one of the links<br />

in that course of law.<br />

Omnipotence and omniscience of God are then seen by the ego to<br />

have acted through the appearance of his own free-will. So he comes<br />

to the conclusion that the ego must go by appearances. Natural laws<br />

are manifestations of God’s will and they have been laid down.<br />

D.: Is the study of science, psychology, physiology, philosophy, etc.<br />

helpful for:-<br />

(1) this art of yoga-liberation.<br />

(2) the intuitive grasp of the unity of the Real?<br />

M.: Very little. Some knowledge is needed for yoga and it may be<br />

found in books. But practical application is the thing needed, and<br />

personal example, personal touch and personal instructions are the<br />

most helpful aids. As for the other, a person may laboriously convince<br />

himself of the truth to be intuited, i.e., its function and nature, but the<br />

actual intuition is akin to feeling and requires practice and personal<br />

contact. Mere book learning is not of any great use. After realisation<br />

all intellectual loads are useless burdens and are thrown overboard<br />

as jetsam. Jettisoning the ego is necessary and natural.<br />

D.: How does dream differ from waking?<br />

M.: In dreams one takes on different bodies, and they re-enter this<br />

body when one dreams of sense-contacts.<br />

D.: What is happiness? Is it inhering in the Atman or in the object, or<br />

in the contact between the subject and the object? But we do not<br />

see happiness in our affairs. When does It actually arise?<br />

M.: When there is contact of a desirable sort or memory thereof,<br />

and when there is freedom from undesirable contacts or memory<br />

thereof, we say there is happiness. Such happiness is relative and<br />

is better called pleasure.<br />

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