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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan’s chest. <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said, “Yes.” (Mr. Viswanatha Iyer,<br />

Narayana Reddi and others have said they felt <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan’s Heartcentre<br />

to be on the right by placing their hands on his chest).<br />

A devotee rightly observed that if hands could feel and locate the<br />

Heart-centre, delicate scientific instruments should certainly do it.<br />

D.: The Heart is said to be on the right, on the left or in the centre. With<br />

such differences of opinion how are we to meditate on Hridaya?<br />

M.: You are and it is a fact. Dhyana is by you, of you, and in you. It<br />

must go on where you are. It cannot be outside you. So you are<br />

the centre of dhyana and that is the Heart.<br />

A location is however given to it <strong>with</strong> reference to the body. You<br />

know that you are. Where are you? You are in the body and not<br />

out of it. Yet not the whole body. Though you pervade the whole<br />

body still you admit of a centre where from all your thoughts start<br />

and wherein they subside. Even when the limbs are amputated you<br />

are there but <strong>with</strong> defective senses. So a centre must be admitted.<br />

That is called the Heart. The Heart is not merely the centre but the<br />

Self. Heart is only another name for the Self.<br />

Doubts arise only when you identify it <strong>with</strong> something tangible<br />

and physical. The scriptures no doubt describe it as the source of<br />

101 nadis, etc. In Yoga Vasishta Chudala says that kundalini is<br />

composed of 101 nadis, thus identifying one <strong>with</strong> the other.<br />

Heart is no conception, no object for meditation. But it is the seat<br />

of meditation; the Self remains all alone. You see the body in the<br />

Heart, the world in it. There is nothing separate from it. So all kinds<br />

of effort are located there only.<br />

18th April, 1937<br />

Talk 404.<br />

A casual visitor asked: What is nishta? How is the look to be directed<br />

between the eyebrows?<br />

M.: How do we see these things? There is a light by which these are<br />

seen. Your question amounts to asking how that light is seen.<br />

D.: What is the significance of the spot between the eyebrows?<br />

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