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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: But we do not know that we are dreaming as apart from waking<br />

as we do now.<br />

M.: The dream is the combination of jagrat and sushupti. It is due<br />

to the samskaras of the jagrat state. Hence we remember dreams<br />

at present. Samskaras are not formed contrariwise; therefore also<br />

we are not aware of the dream and jagrat simultaneously. Still<br />

everyone will recollect strange perplexities in dream. One wonders<br />

if he dreams or is awake. He argues and determines that he is only<br />

awake. When really awake, he finds that it was all only a dream.<br />

Talk 400.<br />

In the course of another conversation <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said: Photisms<br />

add zest to meditation and nothing more.<br />

16th April, 1937<br />

Talk 401.<br />

Mr. Krishnamurti, an Andhra gentleman, asked as follows:- When<br />

we make tapas, on what object must we fix our sight? Our mind is<br />

fixed on what we utter.<br />

M.: What is tapas for?<br />

D.: For Self-Realisation.<br />

M.: Quite so. Tapas depends on the competency of the person. One<br />

requires a form to contemplate. But it is not enough. For can anyone<br />

keep looking at an image always? So the image must be implemented<br />

by japa. Japa helps fixing the mind on the image, in addition to the<br />

eyesight. The result of these efforts is concentration of mind, which<br />

ends in the goal. He becomes what he thinks. Some are satisfied <strong>with</strong> the<br />

name of the image. Every form must have a name. That name denotes<br />

all the qualities of God. Constant japa puts off all other thoughts and<br />

fixes the mind. That is tapas. One-pointedness is the tapas wanted.<br />

The question what tapas is was asked in order to know what purpose<br />

to serve. It will take the form required for the purpose.<br />

D.: Are not physical austerities also tapas?<br />

M.: May be one form of it. They are due to vairagya (dispassion) .<br />

D.: I have seen a man <strong>with</strong> his arm lifted all his life.<br />

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