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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: Is there that difference in the philosophy of Sankara and Gaudapada<br />

which the learned Professor wants us to believe?<br />

M.: The difference is only in our imagination.<br />

D.: Sir S. Radhakrishnan writes:<br />

“The general idea pervading Gaudapada’s work that bondage and<br />

liberation, the individual soul and the world are all unreal, makes<br />

a caustic critic observe that the theory which has nothing better<br />

to say than that an unreal soul is trying to escape from an unreal<br />

Supreme Good, may itself be an unreality. It is one thing to say that<br />

the unchangeable reality expressing itself in the changing universe<br />

<strong>with</strong>out forfeiting its nature is a mystery, and another to dismiss<br />

the whole changing universe as a mere mirage. If we have to play<br />

the game of life we cannot do so <strong>with</strong> the conviction that the play<br />

is a show and all the prizes in it are mere blanks. No philosophy<br />

can consistently hold such a theory and be at rest <strong>with</strong> itself. The<br />

greatest condemnation of such a theory is that we are obliged to<br />

occupy ourselves <strong>with</strong> objects the existence and value of which<br />

we are continually denying in theory. It only shows that there is<br />

something else which includes and transcends the world but it does<br />

not imply the world is a dream.”<br />

M.: As was already said, the purpose of the whole philosophy is to<br />

indicate the underlying Reality whether of the jagrat, svapna and<br />

sushupti states, or the individual souls, the world and God.<br />

There are three outlooks possible:-<br />

(1) The Vyavaharika: The man sees the world in all its variety,<br />

surmises the creator and believes in himself as the subject. All these<br />

are thus reduced to the three fundamentals, jagat, jiva and Isvara. He<br />

learns the existence of the creator and tries to reach him in order to<br />

gain immortality. If one is thus released from bondage, there are all<br />

other individuals existing as before who should work out their own<br />

salvation. He more or less admits the One Reality underlying all these<br />

phenomena. The phenomena are due to the play of maya. Maya is the<br />

sakti of Isvara or the activity of Reality. Thus, existence of different<br />

souls, objects, etc., do not clash <strong>with</strong> the advaitic point of view.<br />

(2) The Pratibhasika: The jagat, jiva and Isvara are all cognised<br />

by the seer only. They do not have any existence independent of<br />

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