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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: Inasmuch as you say you are ignorant, you are wise. Is he a<br />

madman who says that he is mad? Guru’s Grace is like a hand<br />

extended to help you out of water, or it makes your way easier for<br />

the removal of ignorance.<br />

D.: Is it not like a medicine to cure the disease of avidya?<br />

M.: What is medicine for? It is only to restore the patient to the original<br />

state of health. What is this talk of Guru. Grace, God, etc.? Does<br />

the Guru hold you by the hand and whisper something in your<br />

ear? You imagine him to be like yourself. Because you are <strong>with</strong><br />

a body you think that he is also a body in order to do something<br />

tangible to you. His work lies <strong>with</strong>in. How is Guru gained? God,<br />

who is immanent, in his Grace takes pity on the loving devotee and<br />

manifests Himself as a being according to the devotee’s standard.<br />

The devotee thinks that he is a man and expects relationship as<br />

between bodies. But the Guru, who is God or Self incarnate, works<br />

from <strong>with</strong>in, helps the man to see the error of his ways, guides him<br />

in the right path until he realises the Self <strong>with</strong>in.<br />

After such realisation the disciple feels, “I was so worried before. I<br />

am after all the Self, the same as before but not affected by anything;<br />

where is he who was miserable? He is nowhere to be seen.”<br />

What should we do now? Only act up to the words of the master,<br />

work <strong>with</strong>in. The Guru is both <strong>with</strong>in and <strong>with</strong>out. So he creates<br />

conditions to drive you inward and prepares the interior to drag<br />

you to the centre. Thus he gives a push from <strong>with</strong>out and exerts a<br />

pull from <strong>with</strong>in so that you may be fixed at the centre.<br />

In sleep you are centred <strong>with</strong>in. Simultaneously <strong>with</strong> waking<br />

your mind rushes out, thinking this, that and all else. This must be<br />

checked. It is possible only for the agent who can work both <strong>with</strong>in<br />

and <strong>with</strong>out. Can he be identified <strong>with</strong> a body? We think that the<br />

world can be conquered by our efforts. When frustrated externally<br />

and driven internally, we feel “Oh! oh! There is a power higher<br />

than man.” The existence of the higher power must be admitted<br />

and recognised. The ego is a very powerful elephant and cannot<br />

be brought under control by anyone less than a lion, who is no<br />

other than the Guru in this instance; whose very look makes the<br />

elephant tremble and die. We will know in due course that our<br />

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