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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Still again the illustration is not quite appropriate. For the ego has<br />

its source from the Self and is not separate like the background<br />

from the crystal. Having its source from the Self, the ego must only<br />

be retraced in order that it might merge in its source.<br />

The centre of the ego and its core is called the Heart, the same as<br />

the Self.<br />

A gentleman asked if the yogis also reach the anahata and thus realise<br />

the Heart-centre as is done by the jnanis but in a different way.<br />

M.: Anahata is not the same as the Heart-centre. If so, why should<br />

they wander further on to Sahasrara? Moreover, the question arises<br />

because of the sense of separateness persisting in us. We are never<br />

away from the Heart-centre. Before reaching anahata or after<br />

passing it, one is only in the centre. Whether one understands it or<br />

not, one is not away from the centre. Practice of yoga or vichara<br />

is done, always remaining in the centre only.<br />

D.: What is to be our sadhana?<br />

M.: Sadhana for the sadhaka is the sahaja of the siddha. Sahaja is<br />

the original state, so that sadhana amounts to the removal of the<br />

obstacles to the realisation of this abiding truth.<br />

D.: Is concentration of mind one of the sadhanas?<br />

M.: Concentration is not thinking one thing. It is, on the other hand,<br />

putting off all other thoughts which obstruct the vision of our<br />

true nature. All our efforts are only directed to lifting the veil of<br />

ignorance. Now it appears difficult to quell the thoughts. In the<br />

regenerate state it will be found more difficult to call in thoughts.<br />

For are there things to think of? There is only the Self. Thoughts<br />

can function only if there are objects. But there are no objects. How<br />

can thoughts arise at all?<br />

The habit makes us believe that it is difficult to cease thinking. If<br />

the error is found out, one would not be fool enough to exert oneself<br />

unnecessarily by way of thinking.<br />

D.: Is not grace more effective than abhyasa?<br />

M.: Guru simply helps you in the eradication of ignorance. Does he<br />

hand over Realisation to you?<br />

D.: We are ignorant.<br />

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