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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Talk 397.<br />

D.: Fear is consequent on the possibility of non-existence. It pertains<br />

to the body. One is not aware of the body in sleep. One is not<br />

afraid of, but courts sleep, whereas one dreads death. Why is this<br />

difference between the two outlooks?<br />

M.: Desire of sleep or fear of death are when the mind is active and<br />

not in the respective states themselves. The mind knows that the<br />

body entity persists and reappears after sleep. Therefore sleep is<br />

not attended <strong>with</strong> fear but the pleasure of non-bodily existence is<br />

sought. Whereas the mind is not sure of reappearance after the<br />

so-called death and dreads it.<br />

14th April, 1937<br />

Talk 398.<br />

Dandapani, a resident devotee now on a North Indian tour, sent an<br />

extract from the Modern Psychological Review which stated that the<br />

dynamic centre of the Heart is on the right and not on the left whereas<br />

the physical <strong>org</strong>an is on the left.<br />

Conversation followed on that subject.<br />

M.: The yoga marga speaks of the six centres each of which must be<br />

reached by practice and transcended until one reaches sahasrara<br />

where nectar is found and thus immortality. The yogis say that one<br />

enters into the paranadi which starts from the sacral plexus whereas<br />

the jnanis say that the same nadi starts from the heart. Reconciliation<br />

between the seeming]y contradictory statements is effected in the<br />

secret doctrine which distinctly states the yogic paranadi is from<br />

muladhara and the jnana paranadi is from the Heart. The truth is<br />

that the paranadi should be entered. By yogic practice one goes<br />

down, then rises up, wanders all through until the goal is reached;<br />

by jnana abhyas one settles down directly in the centre.<br />

D.: Is not para followed by pasyanti, etc.?<br />

M.: You are speaking of vak which is divided into (1) para, (2) pasyanti,<br />

(3) madhyama and (4) vaikhari; Vak is prana sakti whereas the<br />

mind is tejorupa or chit sakti. The sakti is the manifestation of the<br />

unmanifest origin.<br />

380

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