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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Talk 386.<br />

D.: In <strong>Sri</strong> Ramakrishna’s Life it is said that an idol, Ramlal was<br />

animate. Is it true?<br />

M.: Can you account for the animation of this body? Is the movement<br />

of the idol more mysterious than the movement of this body?<br />

D.: Metal does not move itself.<br />

M.: Is not the body a corpse? You will probably consider it a mystery<br />

if the corpse moves. Is that so?<br />

Talk 387.<br />

Three persons came on a short visit; the eldest of them asked: There<br />

is one process of creation mentioned in the Upanishads and another<br />

in Puranas. Which of them is true?<br />

M.: They are many, and meant to indicate that the creation has a cause<br />

and a creator should be posited so that one might seek the cause. The<br />

emphasis is on the purpose of the theory and not on the process of<br />

creation. Moreover, the creation is perceived by someone. There are<br />

no objects <strong>with</strong>out the subject, i.e., the objects do not come and tell<br />

you that they are, but it is you who says that there are the objects.<br />

The objects are therefore what the seer makes of them. They have no<br />

existence independent of the subject. Find out what you are and then<br />

you understand what the world is. That is the object of the theory.<br />

D.: The soul is only a small particle whereas the creation is so huge.<br />

How can we surmise it?<br />

M.: The particle speaks of the huge creation; where is the contradiction?<br />

Talk 388.<br />

Later <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan continued:<br />

There are so many theories, scriptural and scientific. Have they<br />

reached any finality? They cannot. Brahman is said to be subtler than<br />

the subtlest, wider than the widest. Anu is an atom, infinitesimal. It<br />

ends in subtle perception. The subtlety is of the sukshma body, i.e.,<br />

the mind. Beyond the mind there is the Self. The greatest of things are<br />

also conceptions, the conceptions are of the mind; beyond the mind<br />

there is the Self. So the Self is subtler than the subtlest.<br />

368

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